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Post by derkickistneingut on Nov 20, 2022 10:13:08 GMT -5
www.cfl.ca/2022/11/18/true-grit-zach-collaros-road-to-back-to-back-mop-wins/Cody Fajardo blossomed in Collaros’ absence in Saskatchewan, with the Riders eventually trading Collaros back to the Argos on July 31. Still injured, Collaros never got to suit up for the Argos. He recalled on Thursday night that he was ready to sign an extension with the Argos, but was traded a minute before the trade deadline expired to the Bombers. The rest — a 33-4 record as the team’s starter and consecutive Grey Cup wins — is history in the making. “I was in Hamilton in 2019 and Toronto was shopping him,” Barker said. “I stood on the table — I wasn’t in Hamilton, I don’t know what went down in those years when he got hurt — I’m not casting any aspersions, I just knew as a player, wow if we could get him there…we had Jeremiah and Dane (Evans) but Jeremiah was hurt so we had just Dane. “I thought that would give us great depth going into the playoffs. Winnipeg ended up with him. For a lot of guys it’s about getting that opportunity in the right setting with the right coach and the right cast around.” Omg, gonna be sick. If we had traded for Collaros in 2019, we'd have won the Cup that year & if we kept him, last year as well. It's no coincidence Toronto improved so vastly when Barker went back & we tanked in comparison. Winnipeg doesn't make it to the cup, Sask probably does, and their D doesn't do to us what Winnipeg's D did Barker can be a a bit of a self- promoter, but agree it’s hard to deny the reversal of Cat-Argo fortunes since 2019. He’s always had a good eye for personnel. To me he was a bigger loss than Burke. Interesting to think of Collaros coming here in 2019, though I’m not sure Argos would have traded him to a division rival - especially if they were close to re- signing him. They knew Wpg was more desperate to have a viable qb going into the playoffs and believe they ended up with a first round pick out of the deal. |
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Post by espo on Nov 20, 2022 10:27:26 GMT -5
Yeah, it's an open question. But I got fed up seeing teams exploit that soft intermediate zone in our secondary all year. You counter that kind of shit with an effective pass rush, so I really hope they address that in free agency. For what's it's worth Washington had no shortage of critics when he was DC for a bad BC team and no one complained when he left. And it should be pointed out he is a Stein hire and not a holdover from a previous regime like Condell. For what its worth, I always felt Washington was just put in place to run Steinauer's system when O got bumped up to HC. The issues we're seeing today, we've seen since CoachO's been in place with this defense. It's just now the personnel doesn't include quite so many game breakers (Davis, Breaux, Frankie, healthy Sim and Wynn, younger Teddy, Brooks, and Rolle...) If it wasn't for Johnson, Adeleke, Kelly, and (surprisingly) Leonard last year this defense would have been toast |
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Post by espo on Nov 20, 2022 10:36:48 GMT -5
Winnipeg doesn't make it to the cup, Sask probably does, and their D doesn't do to us what Winnipeg's D did Barker can be a a bit of a self- promoter, but agree it’s hard to deny the reversal of Cat-Argo fortunes since 2019. He’s always had a good eye for personnel. To me he was a bigger loss than Burke. Interesting to think of Collaros coming here in 2019, though I’m not sure Argos would have traded him to a division rival - especially if they were close to re- signing him. They knew Wpg was more desperate to have a viable qb going into the playoffs and believe they ended up with a first round pick out of the deal. Always felt like Barker himself wasn't so great, but he was great at putting people in place to do their jobs properly. Does that make sense? |
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Post by derkickistneingut on Nov 20, 2022 10:46:23 GMT -5
Barker can be a a bit of a self- promoter, but agree it’s hard to deny the reversal of Cat-Argo fortunes since 2019. He’s always had a good eye for personnel. To me he was a bigger loss than Burke. Interesting to think of Collaros coming here in 2019, though I’m not sure Argos would have traded him to a division rival - especially if they were close to re- signing him. They knew Wpg was more desperate to have a viable qb going into the playoffs and believe they ended up with a first round pick out of the deal. Always felt like Barker himself wasn't so great, but he was great at putting people in place to do their jobs properly. Does that make sense? He never impressed me as a head coach, but has had GM/ personnel roles in Toronto, Calgary, even Montreal if I’m not mistaken. I think you’re right he knows how to put together a staff and assemble a team. |
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Post by Crash on Nov 20, 2022 11:40:40 GMT -5
Barker can be a a bit of a self- promoter, but agree it’s hard to deny the reversal of Cat-Argo fortunes since 2019. He’s always had a good eye for personnel. To me he was a bigger loss than Burke. Interesting to think of Collaros coming here in 2019, though I’m not sure Argos would have traded him to a division rival - especially if they were close to re- signing him. They knew Wpg was more desperate to have a viable qb going into the playoffs and believe they ended up with a first round pick out of the deal. Always felt like Barker himself wasn't so great, but he was great at putting people in place to do their jobs properly. Does that make sense? So he would have made the perfect VP of Football Operations? |
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Post by mightypope on Nov 20, 2022 11:48:14 GMT -5
Always felt like Barker himself wasn't so great, but he was great at putting people in place to do their jobs properly. Does that make sense? So he would have made the perfect VP of Football Operations? Hey, you wouldn't want to lose Stein to some U.S. college team, would you? |
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Post by espo on Nov 20, 2022 12:20:42 GMT -5
Always felt like Barker himself wasn't so great, but he was great at putting people in place to do their jobs properly. Does that make sense? So he would have made the perfect VP of Football Operations? guys, c'mon i'm already trying to stomach cheering for the bombers today and i had a big piece of german chocolate cake for breakfast.... stop trying to make me sicker |
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Post by countfloyd1 on Nov 20, 2022 12:38:02 GMT -5
So he would have made the perfect VP of Football Operations? Hey, you wouldn't want to lose Stein to some U.S. college team, would you? You been reading my letter to Santa? |
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Post by onemoredork on Nov 20, 2022 12:52:21 GMT -5
Hey, you wouldn't want to lose Stein to some U.S. college team, would you? You been reading my letter to Santa? "Piercing football minds" are in big demand down there. He can sit back and weigh offers. |
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Post by countfloyd1 on Nov 22, 2022 5:33:43 GMT -5
Not sure how accurate this is, but came across it this morning on twitter  Maybe if Mitchell doesn't sign here, the lemmings will finally clue into the idea that Steinauer is not the be all & end all. I think that if you're one of his guys, it's probably a good place to play. But if you're not... |
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Post by onemoredork on Nov 22, 2022 8:35:30 GMT -5
Not sure how accurate this is, but came across it this morning on twitter View AttachmentMaybe if Mitchell doesn't sign here, the lemmings will finally clue into the idea that Steinauer is not the be all & end all. I think that if you're one of his guys, it's probably a good place to play. But if you're not... Stein: The astute football mind whose, at times, coaching doesn't reflect astuteness. A zen for defense which is rarely reflected by the actual defense.Then there's the talent evaluation and decisions. Something's gotta give. |
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Post by onemoredork on Nov 22, 2022 8:45:59 GMT -5
Not sure how accurate this is, but came across it this morning on twitter View AttachmentMaybe if Mitchell doesn't sign here, the lemmings will finally clue into the idea that Steinauer is not the be all & end all. I think that if you're one of his guys, it's probably a good place to play. But if you're not... Stein: The astute football mind whose coaching often doesn't reflect astuteness. A zen for defense which is rarely reflected by the actual defense.Then there's the talent evaluation and decisions. Perhaps it's getting noticed by more than just fake fans. Something's gotta give. |
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Post by onemoredork on Jan 16, 2023 13:35:25 GMT -5
Waiting for the mental gymnastics that says making the team worse isnt Stein's fault.
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Post by Crash on Jan 19, 2023 12:31:41 GMT -5
As I originally suspected the Ticats cannot offer Bo guaranteed money.
Good to see they went out and traded for someone that was so excited and enamored that he will wait for all of his other options before signing.
When i asked my wife to marry me, she did the same. Waited a few months and called a few other guys up to see what the opportunity was then she landed on me.
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Post by onemoredork on Jan 19, 2023 13:20:16 GMT -5
Again , as much as GC losses and overall regression, this saga will define the Stein era.
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