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Post by derkickistneingut on Nov 16, 2022 20:52:42 GMT -5
Hard to say if Washington schemed the way he did based on his own preference or to fit the personnel he had. Pass rush tended to be weak especially from the ends, and older dbs who might not be able to run step for step anymore with faster receivers downfield. To me that adds up to protecting against the deep ball and giving up the underneath passes. Interesting also that Orlondo was a part of Stubler’s defences in Toronto, which were always veteran-laden and tended to be bend don’t break ( make offences string plays all the way down the field, assuming they’ll eventually screw up instead of giving up the home run shot). I’m sure Steinauer has a lot of influence on the defensive philosophy.
Personally I think we’d benefit from a couple new faces in the secondary, a little more size and speed who can deliver a hit. We definitely seem to be missing a physical presence back there.
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Post by countfloyd1 on Nov 17, 2022 5:19:14 GMT -5
Hard to say if Washington schemed the way he did based on his own preference or to fit the personnel he had. Pass rush tended to be weak especially from the ends, and older dbs who might not be able to run step for step anymore with faster receivers downfield. To me that adds up to protecting against the deep ball and giving up the underneath passes. Interesting also that Orlondo was a part of Stubler’s defences in Toronto, which were always veteran-laden and tended to be bend don’t break ( make offences string plays all the way down the field, assuming they’ll eventually screw up instead of giving up the home run shot). I’m sure Steinauer has a lot of influence on the defensive philosophy. Personally I think we’d benefit from a couple new faces in the secondary, a little more size and speed who can deliver a hit. We definitely seem to be missing a physical presence back there. Yeah, it's an open question. But I got fed up seeing teams exploit that soft intermediate zone in our secondary all year. You counter that kind of shit with an effective pass rush, so I really hope they address that in free agency. |
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Post by Crash on Nov 17, 2022 6:39:54 GMT -5
Hard to say if Washington schemed the way he did based on his own preference or to fit the personnel he had. Pass rush tended to be weak especially from the ends, and older dbs who might not be able to run step for step anymore with faster receivers downfield. To me that adds up to protecting against the deep ball and giving up the underneath passes. Interesting also that Orlondo was a part of Stubler’s defences in Toronto, which were always veteran-laden and tended to be bend don’t break ( make offences string plays all the way down the field, assuming they’ll eventually screw up instead of giving up the home run shot). I’m sure Steinauer has a lot of influence on the defensive philosophy. Personally I think we’d benefit from a couple new faces in the secondary, a little more size and speed who can deliver a hit. We definitely seem to be missing a physical presence back there. Yeah, it's an open question. But I got fed up seeing teams exploit that soft intermediate zone in our secondary all year. You counter that kind of shit with an effective pass rush, so I really hope they address that in free agency. I mean, how could anyone know that Mauldin would be good? We only scouted him, signed him and had him around for 3 years. |
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Post by derkickistneingut on Nov 17, 2022 7:47:35 GMT -5
Yeah, it's an open question. But I got fed up seeing teams exploit that soft intermediate zone in our secondary all year. You counter that kind of shit with an effective pass rush, so I really hope they address that in free agency. I mean, how could anyone know that Mauldin would be good? We only scouted him, signed him and had him around for 3 years. Our biggest flub in free agency imo, even Moreso than Acklin. Mauldin was weighing offers from just Ottawa and us and don’t think he signed for much more than what we offered. He’ll be looking for close to Jeffcoat money this year. |
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Post by countfloyd1 on Nov 17, 2022 8:32:17 GMT -5
Yeah, it's an open question. But I got fed up seeing teams exploit that soft intermediate zone in our secondary all year. You counter that kind of shit with an effective pass rush, so I really hope they address that in free agency. I mean, how could anyone know that Mauldin would be good? We only scouted him, signed him and had him around for 3 years. Whoa, whoa, whoa there Einstein...there's a "New" Mexico? 🤣 |
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Post by onemoredork on Nov 17, 2022 9:56:17 GMT -5
If Mauldin gets any better Milton might actually have to point out one day it was a Stein mistake.
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Post by onemoredork on Nov 17, 2022 9:58:32 GMT -5
Hard to say if Washington schemed the way he did based on his own preference or to fit the personnel he had. Pass rush tended to be weak especially from the ends, and older dbs who might not be able to run step for step anymore with faster receivers downfield. To me that adds up to protecting against the deep ball and giving up the underneath passes. Interesting also that Orlondo was a part of Stubler’s defences in Toronto, which were always veteran-laden and tended to be bend don’t break ( make offences string plays all the way down the field, assuming they’ll eventually screw up instead of giving up the home run shot). I’m sure Steinauer has a lot of influence on the defensive philosophy. Personally I think we’d benefit from a couple new faces in the secondary, a little more size and speed who can deliver a hit. We definitely seem to be missing a physical presence back there. Yeah, it's an open question. But I got fed up seeing teams exploit that soft intermediate zone in our secondary all year. You counter that kind of shit with an effective pass rush, so I really hope they address that in free agency. For what's it's worth Washington had no shortage of critics when he was DC for a bad BC team and no one complained when he left. And it should be pointed out he is a Stein hire and not a holdover from a previous regime like Condell. |
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Post by countfloyd1 on Nov 17, 2022 14:04:22 GMT -5
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Post by countfloyd1 on Nov 19, 2022 15:57:35 GMT -5
www.cfl.ca/2022/11/18/true-grit-zach-collaros-road-to-back-to-back-mop-wins/Cody Fajardo blossomed in Collaros’ absence in Saskatchewan, with the Riders eventually trading Collaros back to the Argos on July 31. Still injured, Collaros never got to suit up for the Argos. He recalled on Thursday night that he was ready to sign an extension with the Argos, but was traded a minute before the trade deadline expired to the Bombers. The rest — a 33-4 record as the team’s starter and consecutive Grey Cup wins — is history in the making. “I was in Hamilton in 2019 and Toronto was shopping him,” Barker said. “I stood on the table — I wasn’t in Hamilton, I don’t know what went down in those years when he got hurt — I’m not casting any aspersions, I just knew as a player, wow if we could get him there…we had Jeremiah and Dane (Evans) but Jeremiah was hurt so we had just Dane. “I thought that would give us great depth going into the playoffs. Winnipeg ended up with him. For a lot of guys it’s about getting that opportunity in the right setting with the right coach and the right cast around.” Omg, gonna be sick. If we had traded for Collaros in 2019, we'd have won the Cup that year & if we kept him, last year as well. It's no coincidence Toronto improved so vastly when Barker went back & we tanked in comparison.
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Post by Crash on Nov 19, 2022 16:01:40 GMT -5
www.cfl.ca/2022/11/18/true-grit-zach-collaros-road-to-back-to-back-mop-wins/Cody Fajardo blossomed in Collaros’ absence in Saskatchewan, with the Riders eventually trading Collaros back to the Argos on July 31. Still injured, Collaros never got to suit up for the Argos. He recalled on Thursday night that he was ready to sign an extension with the Argos, but was traded a minute before the trade deadline expired to the Bombers. The rest — a 33-4 record as the team’s starter and consecutive Grey Cup wins — is history in the making. “I was in Hamilton in 2019 and Toronto was shopping him,” Barker said. “I stood on the table — I wasn’t in Hamilton, I don’t know what went down in those years when he got hurt — I’m not casting any aspersions, I just knew as a player, wow if we could get him there…we had Jeremiah and Dane (Evans) but Jeremiah was hurt so we had just Dane. “I thought that would give us great depth going into the playoffs. Winnipeg ended up with him. For a lot of guys it’s about getting that opportunity in the right setting with the right coach and the right cast around.” Omg, gonna be sick. If we had traded for Collaros in 2019, we'd have won the Cup that year & if we kept him, last year as well. It's no coincidence Toronto improved so vastly when Barker went back & we tanked in comparison. Winnipeg doesn't make it to the cup, Sask probably does, and their D doesn't do to us what Winnipeg's D did |
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Post by espo on Nov 19, 2022 16:38:40 GMT -5
www.cfl.ca/2022/11/18/true-grit-zach-collaros-road-to-back-to-back-mop-wins/Cody Fajardo blossomed in Collaros’ absence in Saskatchewan, with the Riders eventually trading Collaros back to the Argos on July 31. Still injured, Collaros never got to suit up for the Argos. He recalled on Thursday night that he was ready to sign an extension with the Argos, but was traded a minute before the trade deadline expired to the Bombers. The rest — a 33-4 record as the team’s starter and consecutive Grey Cup wins — is history in the making. “I was in Hamilton in 2019 and Toronto was shopping him,” Barker said. “I stood on the table — I wasn’t in Hamilton, I don’t know what went down in those years when he got hurt — I’m not casting any aspersions, I just knew as a player, wow if we could get him there…we had Jeremiah and Dane (Evans) but Jeremiah was hurt so we had just Dane.
“I thought that would give us great depth going into the playoffs. Winnipeg ended up with him. For a lot of guys it’s about getting that opportunity in the right setting with the right coach and the right cast around.” Omg, gonna be sick. If we had traded for Collaros in 2019, we'd have won the Cup that year & if we kept him, last year as well. It's no coincidence Toronto improved so vastly when Barker went back & we tanked in comparison. Winnipeg doesn't make it to the cup, Sask probably does, and their D doesn't do to us what Winnipeg's D did i think i'm gonna throw up a little.... also, anyone else getting a touch perturbed that TSN are giving Pinball a chance to pal it up with Bo right after we traded assets for his rights? just me? cool... |
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Post by Crash on Nov 19, 2022 16:49:15 GMT -5
Winnipeg doesn't make it to the cup, Sask probably does, and their D doesn't do to us what Winnipeg's D did i think i'm gonna throw up a little.... also, anyone else getting a touch perturbed that TSN are giving Pinball a chance to pal it up with Bo right after we traded assets for his rights? just me? cool... I live in a world where MBT retires and Bo signs with the Argos. Oh well. |
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Post by countfloyd1 on Nov 19, 2022 17:42:14 GMT -5
I doubt TSN is facilitating anything. I'd bet Pinball had Bo's number before any trade was made.
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Post by welder on Nov 19, 2022 20:59:54 GMT -5
It would just like this inept front office to trade away draft picks for the the Rights to Bo Levi Mitchell only to have him sign with the Argonauts...
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Post by mightypope on Nov 19, 2022 21:46:46 GMT -5
I hope Mitchell signs with another team because it will be the ultimate embarrassment. If that were to happen does anybody believe Stein would say "Evans is our guy"? I think that relationship is now fractured beyond repair.
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