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Post by Crash on Dec 1, 2022 12:50:01 GMT -5
Already sick of the Bo talk.
Average QB the last 3 years walking around taking questions like he's Tom Brady.
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Post by mightypope on Dec 1, 2022 13:23:50 GMT -5
Do you really think Huff would be getting rid of Bo if he believed he had three or four more seasons left? Stein has really painted himself into a corner with this Mitchell deal. If he doesn't sign it will look bad on the Ticat organization and he's basically told Evans that the quarterbacking wasn't good enough this year. Interesting times ahead.
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Post by Crash on Dec 1, 2022 13:39:34 GMT -5
Do you really think Huff would be getting rid of Bo if he believed he had three or four more seasons left? Stein has really painted himself into a corner with this Mitchell deal. If he doesn't sign it will look bad on the Ticat organization and he's basically told Evans that the quarterbacking wasn't good enough this year. Interesting times ahead. Agreed. Takes balls to make this deal not actually having a deal in place. Kinda hard to walk things back if they don't work out. And if they do, I'm not convinced he's the answer. |
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Post by onemoredork on Dec 1, 2022 15:12:47 GMT -5
Every trade is a win/lose scenario. So how does HAM "win" this deal ?
They squeeze one last "good" season out of BLM ?
But what qualifies as good ?
Reg season win totals ?
Win the division ?
Host a playoff game ?
Nothing less than a GC appearance ?
Nothing less than a GC win ?
Game day experience ?
Merch sales ?
Then factor in the possibility of losing Evans.
HAM built a GC winning calibre team after de-investing in Cavillo and its still a huge historical 'what if'
So, again, what constitutes a "win" if this deal happens ?
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Post by mightypope on Dec 1, 2022 15:40:05 GMT -5
Being under the gun after such a shitty season and with the feel of the noose being draped around his neck Stein has given up on "building" a team for the long haul. It's guns a blazing now!!! At minimum, I think it would take a winning season and a home Grey Cup appearance to be considered a win. For other fans beating the Argos on Labour Day or just having a team to cheer for would consider it a win. It's all about what makes you happy.
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Post by derkickistneingut on Dec 2, 2022 1:14:32 GMT -5
Already sick of the Bo talk. Average QB the last 3 years walking around taking questions like he's Tom Brady. It’s like we traded for Lebron James but 4 years after his last decent championship year with injuries piling up. Making demands of the fan base, offensive co- ordinator, and no doubt will want the team to sign certain free agents. Starting to think that whatever team winds up with him will regret it. Maybe it’s all posturing but I have a hard time seeing him here, doesn’t seem like a fit, like a Jason Maas- Casey Printers style miss. The way the qb carousel works in the CFL, it’s plausible we could be signing Cody Fajardo or Nick Arbuckle in a desperation, we need somebody with a name type move in February. The shitty thing is, this really puts the team in a holding pattern with their own free agents. You want your biggest salary accounted for so you can see where the rest of the dominoes fall. How can you rightly plan on building what type of team you want if you don’t have the most important position locked down? What free agent receiver is coming here if we don’t have a viable starting qb locked up before Feb. 1st? |
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Post by countfloyd1 on Dec 2, 2022 4:57:01 GMT -5
BLM is Jason Maas 2.0. Recently injured veteran QB on the downside of his career, traded for in the vain hope that it'll finally bring a championship back to the Hammer. Once he got here, it was apparent Maas couldn't complete a wide side out.
If it were up to me, I'd start spending to sign our necessary FAs by the end of the year, then concentrate on both lines (yes, there may be some overlap there). If you take Mitchell at his word that he's going to try free agency, and also that money isn't the ultimate factor in where he signs, then you have to consider Dane as the starter & think of the long term good of the club. If he doesn't sign here in FA, at least the damage is limited to draft picks only, as stupid as that is in any case.
Bottom line, mightypope is right when he says that Huff doesn't cut vets with a lot left in the tank. BLM may have a year or two left in him, but will it be enough to get us the prize without addressing the glaring need for upgrades on both lines? Don't think so. We could have had Doug Flutie in his prime back there this year & we wouldn't have done much better, if at all.
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Post by argo57 on Dec 2, 2022 7:34:07 GMT -5
Already sick of the Bo talk. Average QB the last 3 years walking around taking questions like he's Tom Brady. I agree with you, nauseating to listen to this guy. He’s worth no more than a modest incentive laden contract at this point, to pay him anymore than that would be a major mistake. |
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Post by onemoredork on Dec 2, 2022 16:57:47 GMT -5
Naylor thinks Khari is going to OTT to be OC.
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Post by Crash on Dec 2, 2022 20:23:38 GMT -5
BLM is Jason Maas 2.0. Recently injured veteran QB on the downside of his career, traded for in the vain hope that it'll finally bring a championship back to the Hammer. Once he got here, it was apparent Maas couldn't complete a wide side out. If it were up to me, I'd start spending to sign our necessary FAs by the end of the year, then concentrate on both lines (yes, there may be some overlap there). If you take Mitchell at his word that he's going to try free agency, and also that money isn't the ultimate factor in where he signs, then you have to consider Dane as the starter & think of the long term good of the club. If he doesn't sign here in FA, at least the damage is limited to draft picks only, as stupid as that is in any case. Bottom line, mightypope is right when he says that Huff doesn't cut vets with a lot left in the tank. BLM may have a year or two left in him, but will it be enough to get us the prize without addressing the glaring need for upgrades on both lines? Don't think so. We could have had Doug Flutie in his prime back there this year & we wouldn't have done much better, if at all. Burris had alot left in the tank to be fair. |
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Post by onemoredork on Dec 2, 2022 20:45:15 GMT -5
BLM is Jason Maas 2.0. Recently injured veteran QB on the downside of his career, traded for in the vain hope that it'll finally bring a championship back to the Hammer. Once he got here, it was apparent Maas couldn't complete a wide side out. If it were up to me, I'd start spending to sign our necessary FAs by the end of the year, then concentrate on both lines (yes, there may be some overlap there). If you take Mitchell at his word that he's going to try free agency, and also that money isn't the ultimate factor in where he signs, then you have to consider Dane as the starter & think of the long term good of the club. If he doesn't sign here in FA, at least the damage is limited to draft picks only, as stupid as that is in any case. Bottom line, mightypope is right when he says that Huff doesn't cut vets with a lot left in the tank. BLM may have a year or two left in him, but will it be enough to get us the prize without addressing the glaring need for upgrades on both lines? Don't think so. We could have had Doug Flutie in his prime back there this year & we wouldn't have done much better, if at all. Burris had alot left in the tank to be fair. There was no shortage of Eskimo fans who thought we got their best QB. By no means was he seen as on the downside of his career. |
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Post by Crash on Dec 3, 2022 0:45:24 GMT -5
Burris had alot left in the tank to be fair. There was no shortage of Eskimo fans who thought we got their best QB. By no means was he seen as on the downside of his career. Maas was definitely damaged goods. His shoulder was done. Bo may have something in the tank but he hasn't shown it for a long time. |
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Post by derkickistneingut on Dec 3, 2022 9:16:26 GMT -5
There was no shortage of Eskimo fans who thought we got their best QB. By no means was he seen as on the downside of his career. Maas was definitely damaged goods. His shoulder was done. Bo may have something in the tank but he hasn't shown it for a long time. Maas was actually very good in the 2005 playoffs for Edmonton. Relieved Ray to help win both the WSF and WF. I think he screwed his shoulder throwing in the offseason or at some point with us in 2006. Also seem to recall some type of abdominal injury he suffered in training camp that affected his throwing. Agree on Bo - hasn’t looked good since 2018. |
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Post by countfloyd1 on Dec 4, 2022 4:52:30 GMT -5
BLM is Jason Maas 2.0. Recently injured veteran QB on the downside of his career, traded for in the vain hope that it'll finally bring a championship back to the Hammer. Once he got here, it was apparent Maas couldn't complete a wide side out. If it were up to me, I'd start spending to sign our necessary FAs by the end of the year, then concentrate on both lines (yes, there may be some overlap there). If you take Mitchell at his word that he's going to try free agency, and also that money isn't the ultimate factor in where he signs, then you have to consider Dane as the starter & think of the long term good of the club. If he doesn't sign here in FA, at least the damage is limited to draft picks only, as stupid as that is in any case. Bottom line, mightypope is right when he says that Huff doesn't cut vets with a lot left in the tank. BLM may have a year or two left in him, but will it be enough to get us the prize without addressing the glaring need for upgrades on both lines? Don't think so. We could have had Doug Flutie in his prime back there this year & we wouldn't have done much better, if at all. Burris had alot left in the tank to be fair. True. Of the QBs that Huff has let go, the only ones that I can think of without googling are Burris, Tate & Arbuckle. The Canadian kid (can't think of his name right now, Buckley?) retired to work a non football related job. If this is our sample, you might be able to make the argument that Huff's judgment re QBs is less accurate than other position groups, which is kind of odd, considering he played the position. If this is true, Bo might still be able to perform at a high level. I'm not sure I'd want to roll the dice on that at the expense of losing 1 of the only 2 QBs we've developed in recent memory, especially when Bo's track record over the last few years has been pretty spotty. |
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Post by countfloyd1 on Dec 4, 2022 4:54:46 GMT -5
Burris had alot left in the tank to be fair. There was no shortage of Eskimo fans who thought we got their best QB. By no means was he seen as on the downside of his career. Imagine thinking Maas is a better QB than Ricky Ray. I do recall Maas coming off the bench to clinch a playoff win for them, can't remember if it was the GC or not, I think it was the year they won it with Maccioccia, 2005? |
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