sigpig
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Post by sigpig on Nov 14, 2021 17:32:33 GMT -5
Is it time to treat starting QBs the same way as starting pitchers in baseball, starting players in basketball, or starting goalies in hockey?
If a goalie/BB player is having a bad start to the game, it's common for a coach to pull them to cool down/regroup/see what's going on from the bench for a bit; and a ball manager can make a pitching change (permanent, however).
If a team has a capable backup, ie: one who can run a series without a catastrophe, I believe that this would be a benefit overall.
Sure, egos will be bruised, but big deal. I know that they study iPads between series, but I reckon that it's not the same as seeing a play live.
Thoughts?
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Post by Crash on Nov 14, 2021 22:06:50 GMT -5
You're starting to see some of it with the short yardage stuff.
In our situation why not send Evans out there with a sneak and 2 more plays in the hurry up while the D has their sneak defence in.
I couldn't agree more. Most teams (except Sask and Winnipeg) have capable backups that they trust, why not utilize them depending on situation.
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Post by sigpig on Nov 14, 2021 23:16:04 GMT -5
You're starting to see some of it with the short yardage stuff. In our situation why not send Evans out there with a sneak and 2 more plays in the hurry up while the D has their sneak defence in. I couldn't agree more. Most teams (except Sask and Winnipeg) have capable backups that they trust, why not utilize them depending on situation. Conservative coaching, and the mindset that you live and die with your starter. I would argue that Masoli, as horrible as he was in the first quarter, had earned the opportunity to play himself out of the hole based on his last few games; just as a veteran "ace" on a MLB team has earned the right to pitch himself out of a hole after coughing up a couple of homers. The "bullpen" should have been utilized in the second half. I dislike seeing starters on both teams in the final quarter (or half) of a blow-out. Too many opportunities for an injury. I can see why it may be a problem. Say you pull your starter for a series, and the backup orchestrates a TD drive. Do you pull the guy who just scored, or go with the hot hand? A perfect example was the use of Dan LeFevour in the 2013 playoffs. Burris was pissed, but we won the games. Another issue is first-team reps during practice. With the 10 minutes or so that the CFLPA allows for actual physical work each day, there are very few opportunities for the backup QB to get any reps. |
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Post by mark on Nov 16, 2021 22:03:52 GMT -5
Is it time to treat starting QBs the same way as starting pitchers in baseball, starting players in basketball, or starting goalies in hockey?
If a goalie/BB player is having a bad start to the game, it's common for a coach to pull them to cool down/regroup/see what's going on from the bench for a bit; and a ball manager can make a pitching change (permanent, however).
If a team has a capable backup, ie: one who can run a series without a catastrophe, I believe that this would be a benefit overall.
Sure, egos will be bruised, but big deal. I know that they study iPads between series, but I reckon that it's not the same as seeing a play live.
Thoughts?
You mean like Wilkinson/ Lemmerman and Wilkinson/Moon? Eskies did the two QB system better than anybody. It was a beauty to watch and fun to analyze the coaching decisions. |
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Post by countfloyd1 on Nov 17, 2021 5:16:03 GMT -5
Is it time to treat starting QBs the same way as starting pitchers in baseball, starting players in basketball, or starting goalies in hockey?
If a goalie/BB player is having a bad start to the game, it's common for a coach to pull them to cool down/regroup/see what's going on from the bench for a bit; and a ball manager can make a pitching change (permanent, however).
If a team has a capable backup, ie: one who can run a series without a catastrophe, I believe that this would be a benefit overall.
Sure, egos will be bruised, but big deal. I know that they study iPads between series, but I reckon that it's not the same as seeing a play live.
Thoughts?
It's mind-boggling to me that Masoli can have a half like he did against the Argos (2/8, 40 yards passing) and the coach still trots him out in the 2nd half. Evans must be wondering wtf he has to do to get in the game. |
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Post by sigpig on Nov 17, 2021 12:46:35 GMT -5
Let's not turn this into a Masoli/Evans thread. There are enough of those around.
I'm talking big-picture, needing a different mind-set.
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Post by patlynch on Nov 17, 2021 15:28:17 GMT -5
I like the starting pitcher analogy . At the end of most seasons , we got to see our #2 and #3 QBs . This hasn't been a normal season with normal decisions . Kerrigan and Porras come to mind .
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