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Post by FozzieBear on Oct 3, 2022 20:52:56 GMT -5
Whoa. Couldn't wait till offseason. Imagine having that much of a sense of urgency.
Honestly it really could not have waited until the off season and should have happened during the first RebBlacks bi-week. Ottawa truly has a great fan base however, due to the horrifically bad on field product they are starting to walk away and there has already been a high portion of the fan base dropping season tickets for next season already. They had already lost a lot after last season and this franchise can ill afford to continue to alienate its remaining fan base.
Paul LaPolice is a great coordinator but frankly a lousy head coach. He was given more then a fair shot to show some signs of life and all he really had to do to keep his job for next season was to field a competitive team week in and week out. He could have finished 3-15 and remained the coach for next year, however, his offense despite actually having a good offensive line, RB, and receivers is just so fundamentally awful. The teams defense for most of the season look like they quit in most second halves.
LaPolice was his own worst enemy and I do agree with TSN 1200 in that since 2019 the quality of all coaches in Ottawa has dropped considerably. Several walked away from the team before LaPolice was hired and really he did not do a good job of surrounding himself with good coaches.
What folks outside of Ottawa do not realize is how bad it actually is here for the franchise. Since 2019 this team as won 2 games at home.... 1-8 in 2019, 1-6 in 2021, and 0-7 in 2022. The win in 2019 came in the home opener for RedBlacks and since then they are 1-21. The Ottawa owners and brass are in serious damage control as the fanbase here has no faith or trust in the organization any longer. Another crappy season like this and I actually fear for the viability of the team as apathy is setting in badly now.
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Post by sigpig on Oct 4, 2022 8:16:14 GMT -5
It certainly didn't help that he had Desjardins as a GM for two years. Until this season, he really hasn't had decent players.
The QB thing is on him - he changed decisiions faster than some change underwear. And the time he DID get a good QB, some idiot intentionally breaks his leg...
Ottawa had an opportunity to have at least a .500 season, and there are a number of reasons they won't (same with the Ticats). With a new GM in town, I feel that LaPo knew he was on a short leash.
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Post by FozzieBear on Oct 6, 2022 20:06:16 GMT -5
It certainly didn't help that he had Desjardins as a GM for two years. Until this season, he really hasn't had decent players. The QB thing is on him - he changed decisiions faster than some change underwear. And the time he DID get a good QB, some idiot intentionally breaks his leg... Ottawa had an opportunity to have at least a .500 season, and there are a number of reasons they won't (same with the Ticats). With a new GM in town, I feel that LaPo knew he was on a short leash. Lapo made a lot of dumb mistakes repeatedly which include idiotic play calling, not getting better assistants, not having an offensive coordinator, and on and on. He should never have kept the dual role this season and his play calling was truly mind boggling.
He was given players that were much much better and this team should have been pretty competitive. In the end Lapo did himself in and he really has no one to blame but himself.
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Post by sigpig on Oct 6, 2022 21:51:52 GMT -5
It certainly didn't help that he had Desjardins as a GM for two years. Until this season, he really hasn't had decent players. The QB thing is on him - he changed decisiions faster than some change underwear. And the time he DID get a good QB, some idiot intentionally breaks his leg... Ottawa had an opportunity to have at least a .500 season, and there are a number of reasons they won't (same with the Ticats). With a new GM in town, I feel that LaPo knew he was on a short leash. Lapo made a lot of dumb mistakes repeatedly which include idiotic play calling, not getting better assistants, not having an offensive coordinator, and on and on. He should never have kept the dual role this season and his play calling was truly mind boggling.
He was given players that were much much better and this team should have been pretty competitive. In the end Lapo did himself in and he really has no one to blame but himself.
Fair enough. You have to admit that Desjardins was a tire fire as a GM. LaPo isn't blameless, but I don't believe that it is all his fault. Isn't it amazing that we can discuss this without being nasty to each other? |
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Post by FozzieBear on Oct 7, 2022 9:22:41 GMT -5
Lapo made a lot of dumb mistakes repeatedly which include idiotic play calling, not getting better assistants, not having an offensive coordinator, and on and on. He should never have kept the dual role this season and his play calling was truly mind boggling.
He was given players that were much much better and this team should have been pretty competitive. In the end Lapo did himself in and he really has no one to blame but himself.
Fair enough. You have to admit that Desjardins was a tire fire as a GM. LaPo isn't blameless, but I don't believe that it is all his fault. Isn't it amazing that we can discuss this without being nasty to each other? Ottawa as a franchise really screwed the pooch after the 3-15 season when they had a choice between Rick Campbell and Desjardins. They unfortunately chose the later as Campbell basically quit because the franchise would not remove Marcel and bring a new GM in.
Campbell is a very good coach that as we know went to BC and has done a very good job helping turn things around for that franchise. Ottawa on the other hand has been and is a raging dumpster fire due to continued poor choices.
I was more pointing out Lapo's issues as if you go to 3Downnation there is an article there that basically defends him which I found truly irritating as living here in Ottawa and listening to TSN 1200 you get the full picture that some yahoo from Western Canada does not have but still writes a ridiculous article.
Agreed about the we can discuss things here. This is what I like about the board, every one can state their opinion have a good discussion with others and no one gets nasty when they disagree.
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Post by espo on Oct 7, 2022 10:19:50 GMT -5
Fair enough. You have to admit that Desjardins was a tire fire as a GM. LaPo isn't blameless, but I don't believe that it is all his fault. Isn't it amazing that we can discuss this without being nasty to each other? Really don't think LaPo himself was the problem, in fact, this regime seemed like they were at least making the right moves on the field. Their defense was surprisingly solid for such a garbage team last year, lack of QB, weapons and guys on both lines were their downfall. They at least attempted to address every significant need this offseason. Brought in DEs from contenders Mauldin, Boateng, Coleman (no, i didn't like losing Mauldin at the time either, but i didn't think he'd be this effective) They needed Oline help, they brought in Circaco and Ucambre Williams to shore things up. They needed receiving help, enter Acklin, Adams, Noel, and Shaq Johnson RBs were weak, re-enter Powell They desperately needed QB help, they went out and got some, for about 15 quarters. Even hung with Winnipeg for the first two games of the year (single digit losses) and high flying early season BC (another surprising single digit loss). They did all the right things to plug holes, just got served a reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeal big shitsammich in the luck department (obviously stretched himself way too thin wearing waaaaaaay too many hats, but if he'd limited it to GM and headcoach, it probably wouldn't have been quite so quicksandy) |
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Post by sigpig on Oct 7, 2022 10:51:25 GMT -5
Fair enough. You have to admit that Desjardins was a tire fire as a GM. LaPo isn't blameless, but I don't believe that it is all his fault. Isn't it amazing that we can discuss this without being nasty to each other? Ottawa as a franchise really screwed the pooch after the 3-15 season when they had a choice between Rick Campbell and Desjardins. They unfortunately chose the later as Campbell basically quit because the franchise would not remove Marcel and bring a new GM in.
Campbell is a very good coach that as we know went to BC and has done a very good job helping turn things around for that franchise. Ottawa on the other hand has been and is a raging dumpster fire due to continued poor choices.
I was more pointing out Lapo's issues as if you go to 3Downnation there is an article there that basically defends him which I found truly irritating as living here in Ottawa and listening to TSN 1200 you get the full picture that some yahoo from Western Canada does not have but still writes a ridiculous article.
Agreed about the we can discuss things here. This is what I like about the board, every one can state their opinion have a good discussion with others and no one gets nasty when they disagree.
Fozzie, I live in Barrhaven, so I listen to the same TSN 1200 radio as you. The last two seasons (along with 2020) have been as much of a disaster here as in Hamilton. Ottawa actually has the balls to make a move - something neither Orlondo nor his employers do. |
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Post by FozzieBear on Oct 7, 2022 11:01:14 GMT -5
I do blame Lapo the most this season as his decision making and stubborn refusal to get help coaching the offense was mind boggling at times. The radio guys were regularly stunned by some of Lapo's in game decision making.
He was given a fairly good team and as pointed out had bad luck with the QB position.
Lapo keeping his job was not about the Win loss record that Ottawa had this season. It was about the team being competitive for which all but a few games it was not even remotely that. Several games the last two months were just down right embarrassing to the franchise and since the team showed zero signs of being competitive was Lapo's undoing. He could have finished 3-15 and kept his job had the team have been competitive.
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Post by sigpig on Oct 7, 2022 11:12:31 GMT -5
The GM and ownership HAVE to wear some of that shit on their faces too. They are the ones that hired him, even if the GM in question was fired for cause.
I agree that he's not Head Coach material. Possibly a good OC or QB coach, but not a Head Coach. That takes a certain skill that not many have (see: Reinebold, Jeff).
I am just saying that nobody in OSEG are blameless. Burke was a great hire, and he gave LaPo a LONG audition before coming to this conclusion.
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Post by derkickistneingut on Oct 7, 2022 12:17:06 GMT -5
We’ll see the true measure of Burke as GM in 2023-24. You can only poach guys in free agency for so long. His salary cap is going to be stretched pretty thin if they try to add many more free agents - they’ll have to dump some of the ones they have to go that route. There’s only so many viable young players left from his Ticat days that he hasn’t scooped yet. Masoli and Arbuckle are both question marks and not guaranteed to return. His head coach hire and scouting of new players will go a long way in proving his worth one way or another.
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